Giants and Stones

Romans 12:1-2:

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

“Be not conformed to this world” and its devil’s bondage.  We are directed to separate ourselves from its ungodly influences at all levels, including ungodly entertainment.  Instead of being conformed, the believer is commanded to “be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.”  Neuroscience knows this transforming process as neuroplasticity, understanding that words literally transform the physical structure of the brain.      

Putting on the mind of Christ—whose name is the “Word of God” (Revelations 19:13)—is the transfusion of God’s living Words into your word-made and word-based brain.  These glorious Words of life change everything, even the physical dimensions of the human brain.  Thousands of years before today’s latest scientific discoveries, the inerrant Word of the living God found in your Majority-Text Holy Bible stakes out the correct position.  

The miraculous transforming process begins at the place Jesus Christ calls born-again.  John 3:3:

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

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GOD SAID, Genesis 6:1-4:

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

GOD SAID, Deuteronomy 3:13:

And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.

GOD SAID, Numbers 13:33:

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

GOD SAID, I Samuel 17: 4-10, 20-24, 44-51:

4 And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

5 And he had an helmet of brass upon his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail; and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of brass.

6 And he had greaves of brass upon his legs, and a target of brass between his shoulders.

7 And the staff of his spear was like a weaver''s beam; and his spear''s head weighed six hundred shekels of iron: and one bearing a shield went before him.

8 And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me.

9 If he be able to fight with me, and to kill me, then will we be your servants: but if I prevail against him, and kill him, then shall ye be our servants, and serve us.

10 And the Philistine said, I defy the armies of Israel this day; give me a man, that we may fight together.

20 And David rose up early in the morning, and left the sheep with a keeper, and took, and went, as Jesse had commanded him; and he came to the trench, as the host was going forth to the fight, and shouted for the battle.

21 For Israel and the Philistines had put the battle in array, army against army.

22 And David left his carriage in the hand of the keeper of the carriage, and ran into the army, and came and saluted his brethren.

23 And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them.

24 And all the men of Israel, when they saw the man, fled from him, and were sore afraid.

44 And the Philistine said to David, Come to me, and I will give thy flesh unto the fowls of the air, and to the beasts of the field.

45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.

46 This day will the LORD deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.

47 And all this assembly shall know that the LORD saveth not with sword and spear: for the battle is the Lord''s, and he will give you into our hands.

48 And it came to pass, when the Philistine arose, and came and drew nigh to meet David, that David hasted, and ran toward the army to meet the Philistine.

49 And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth.

50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.

51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled.

MAN SAID: Giants?! Just another Biblical fairytale!

Now THE RECORD:  Welcome to GodSaidManSaid feature 846 that will clearly certify the inerrancy of God’s Holy Bible.  All of these faith-building features are archived here in text and streaming audio in defense of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  Every Thursday eve, God willing, they grow by one.  Thank you for coming.  May God’s face shine upon you with Light and Truth. 

The Bible is the fountain source of all that is true and holy.  The Bible has the answers to all of life’s questions.  The Bible offers unto fallen man the only way of escape from Satan’s bondage: Jesus Christ, the ultimate solution.  Since the beginning of time, the Devil has paraded before the sons of Adam his champions—his academic giants—to defy Holy Writ, but they have failed miserably, time after time.   They have all been slain with one smooth stone.  Speaking of Jesus Christ, I Peter 2: 6-8:

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

Giants—could this be true?  Are the Bible''s approximately 200 references to giants certified true by third-party experts?  Do paleontology, archaeology, historical records, and societal accounts all say yes?  There can be no reasonable doubt. 

GodSaidManSaid has published several features addressing the subject of giants over the past decade or so.  The mysterious giants have risen again, but this time under the title of the Nephilim.  The word Nephilim is found in the NIV and other minority-text translations, but in the majority-text Authorized King James Version, the word is correctly translated as giants. 

Several foundational paragraphs from the GodSaidManSaid feature Giants II follow: 

Confessing Christians have been busy running from the Word of God and dodging Biblical truths such as the 6,000+ year-old earth, fire-breathing dragons, fiery flying serpents, the reptilian sea monster leviathan, the dinosaur behemoth, the walls of Jericho, the missing day, the virgin birth, the resurrection, Christ’s ascension, His returning, and on and on.  It’s an insult to the Lord Jesus Christ.  One brother, when discussing Biblical faith and miracles with a particular pastor, found out that the pastor didn’t believe in either.  When discovering this obvious conundrum, he asked the pastor, “Why aren’t you laying brick?”  In other words, why are you representing what you don’t believe?  Why not take another vocation such as brick-laying? 

Yes, there were giants in those days.  When discussing giants of old and people of enormous height, many people today lump these two together, referring to such terms as “gigantism” or “acromegaly,” a rare disorder of the pituitary gland which causes abnormal size.  But, the giants of the scriptures were not rare genetic flukes.  There were entire populations of giants.  The scriptures refer to giants nearly 200 times.  If the Word of God makes mention of giants so many times, then there should be empirical proof that they did once exist—and of course, there is. 

In Deuteronomy 3:13, Moses speaks concerning the dividing of part of conquered Canaan among the Israelites.  It reads:

And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.

It was the land of giants! 

God reminds backslidden and rebellious Israel of their roots in Amos 2:9:

For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

Perhaps the first museum was in Rabbath, of the children of Ammon, where Og’s bed remained.  If you use the 18-inch cubit, his bed would be 13½ feet long and 6 feet wide—or, based on the 22-inch cubit, 16½ feet long and 7 feet, four inches wide.  Give him a foot for head and toe clearance, and you have a giant of 12½ to 15½ feet tall!  It is reported that German scholar Gustav Dalmon discovered the bed of the giant king—just where God said it sat. 

When the spies that Moses sent across Jordan returned, they alarmed the people with a story of ferocious giants.  Numbers 13:33:

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Og, the king of the giants, ruled over 60 cities.  God delivered the race of giants into the hand of the seed of Jacob (Deuteronomy 3:4-5).

Flavius Josephus, one of the greatest historians of all time, writes the following in chapter five of The Antiquities of the Jews:

For which reason they removed their camp to Hebron; and when they had taken it, they slew all the inhabitants.  There were till then left the race of giants, who had bodies so large, and countenances so entirely different from other men, that they were surprising to the sight, and terrible to the hearing.  The bones of these men are still shewn to this very day, unlike to any credible relations of other men.  [End of quote]

According to the research collected by DeLoach, author of the book Giants:

Pliny mentions that in the reign of Claudius (AD 41-54), a nine-foot-nine-inch giant named Gabbaras was brought to Rome from Arabia.  Claudius placed him at the head of the famed Adiutrix legions.  The giant so awed his troops that some worshipped him as a god. 

And again:

During his principate, Caesar Augustus (27 BC-AD 14) assigned two giants who towered over ten feet tall to lead the Roman armies into battle.  “On account of this remarkable height,” writes Pliny, the bodies of the two giants “were preserved in the tomb in Sallust’s Gardens; their names were Pusio and Secundilla.”  [End of quote]

Finally, from DeLoach, the following excerpt:

In 1970, some huge, fossilized footprints that he found in Australia’s outback so intrigued Dr. Rex Gilroy, director of the Mount York Natural History Museum at Mount Victoria, N.S.W., that he began excavations in that area.  Over the years, he gathered enough evidence to convince himself that a race of giants once dwelled there.  Near Bathurst, Dr. Gilroy turned up some stone implements, hand axes, clubs, pounders, adzes, knives, and other tools so huge that only giants with extra-large hands and strength could have made any beneficial use of them.  He also uncovered some giant molars and other fossilized footprints that measured up to thirty inches in length.  “the implications are,” he wrote in an article detailing his archaeological finds, “that men of 12 to 20 feet in height once roamed this continent.” 

Marzulli, in his book On the Trail of the Nephilim, lists numerous newspaper reports concerning discovery of giants in the western hemisphere.  A few of the many headlines and excerpts follow:

⚫ New York Tribune—February 3, 1909 (Skeleton 15 Feet High Unearthed in Mexico)
News was received here Monday from Mexico that at Ixtapalapa, a town 10 miles southeast of Mexico City, there had been discovered what was believed to be the skeleton of a prehistoric giant of extraordinary size. 

A person while excavating for the foundation of a house on the estate of Augustin Juarez found the skeleton of a human being that is estimated to have been about 15 feet high, and who must have lived ages ago, judging from the ossified state of the bones. 

The discovery of the skeleton has revived the old Aztec legend that in a prehistoric age, a race of giants lived in the valley of Anahuac, a name given by the aboriginal Mexicans to that part of the Mexican plateau nearly corresponding to the modern valley of Mexico City.

⚫ Scientific American—August 14, 1880, Page 106 (Ancient American Giants)
The Rev. Stephen Bowers notes in the Kansas City Review of Science the opening of an interesting mound in Brush Creek Township, Ohio.  The mound was opened by the Historical Society of the township, under the immediate supervision of Dr. J.F. Everhart of Zanesville. 

It measured 64 by 35 feet at the summit, gradually sloping in every direction and was eight feet in height.  There was found in it a sort of clay coffin including the skeleton of a woman measuring eight feet in length. 

Within this coffin was found also the skeleton of a child about three and a half feet in length and an image that crumbled when exposed to the atmosphere. 

In another grave was found the skeleton of a man and a woman, the former measuring nine and the latter eight feet in length.  In a third grave occurred two other skeletons, male and female, measuring respectively nine feet, four inches, and eight feet. 

Seven other skeletons were found in the mound, the smallest of which measured eight feet, while others reached the enormous length of ten feet. 

⚫ The Vancouver Sun—August 18, 1922, P.9 (Primitive Man, Ten Feet Tall, Is Unearthed)
MEXICO CITY, August 17—The department of agriculture yesterday received from an agent of Tiburon Island, Gulf of California, the skeleton of a primitive man more than ten feet tall.  It was found a few days ago.  Other bones of similar size have been encountered. 

⚫ Anaconda Standard—April 29, 1890, P. 3
The Pony Express says that one day last week, carpenters on the Isdell irrigating ditch unearthed a skeleton of mammoth proportions.  By actual measurements, it was 13 feet and two inches in length.  The circumference of the skull when measured was found to be 37 inches.  The feet were 21 inches in length.  This is the second discovery of this kind made near Pony during the past year.  Ed Sparrel, while sinking a shaft on his mine near Richmond Flats last June, exhumed a skeleton of even larger proportions than the one in question.  From the thigh down, it measured five feet and three inches and was 17 feet in height.  It is supposed that these skeletons are descendants of the historical tribe of giants known as Polos.  The curiosity is now on exhibition at Dr. Cooper’s office. 

⚫ The Times Dispatch—February 11, 1907, P. 8 (Giant’s Tooth)
This discovery recalls that six months ago, the skeleton of a giant was discovered in a cave near Bristol by workmen who were opening a stone quarry.  The bones showed their former possessor to have been fully ten feet in height.  E.C. Huffaker, formerly of the Smithsonian Institution, expressed the opinion that this skeleton was that of a prehistoric giant.  [End of quotes]

There were tribes of giants in the Bible, namely:

⬛The descendants of Anak, the Anakims;

⬛ A grouping of the Amorites;

⬛ Emims;

⬛ The Zamzummins; and of course,

⬛ The famed Goliath, slain by one smooth stone. 

The accuracy of the Scriptures is continually challenged, but never bested—never.  God’s Word is the place to build a life that will last forever. [End of quotes]

Yes giants, even as the Word of God so accurately reports. The most famous of the giants is the nearly 10-feet-tall Goliath the Gittite, a Philistine from Gath. In rabbinical literature, additional information concerning Goliath is recorded. The following excerpts are published at www.JewishE ncyclopedia.com:

Goliath was of ignoble birth. His mother is said to have been Orpah, who, after making a pretense of accompanying Ruth, her mother-in-law, and walking with her forty paces, had left her and had led a very profligate life, so that Goliath, her son, was of uncertain paternity. She bore besides Goliath three other giants.

In defying Israel, Goliath boasted of having slain the two sons of Eli, capturing the Holy Ark and  bringing it to the house of Dagon, where it stayed seven months, and of having led the van of the Philistines in every war, scattering the enemy before him like dust. [End of quote]

It is interesting to note that Goliath is said to be one of four giants born to Orpah, a daughter-in-law to the Naomi of the Bible. Their story is recorded in the book of Ruth in the Old Testament. Ruth was sister-in-law to Orpah and also daughter-in-law to Naomi. Both Orpah and Ruth were Moabites. According to rabbinical literature, Orpah, daughter-in-law to Naomi and sister-in-law to Ruth, was the mother of Goliath. Orpah’s husband, Naomi’s son, died. Orpah left her mother-in-law to return unto her own people. Orpah’s sister-in-law Ruth was also married to a son of Naomi who died, but she decided to return with her mother-in-law to Israel where she married Boaz. Ruth then gives birth to Obed who is the father of Jesse, who is the father of David, making David the great-grandson of Ruth.

I Samuel 17:1-2:

1 Now the Philistines gathered together their armies to battle, and were gathered together at Shochoh, which belongeth to Judah, and pitched between Shochoh and Azekah, in Ephesdammim.

2 And Saul and the men of Israel were gathered together, and pitched by the valley of Elah, and set the battle in array against the Philistines.

In this passage, the armies of the Philistines were encamped between Shochoh, being situated about 15 miles from Bethlehem where David was born and raised. The armies of Israel pitched by the valley of Elah. Keep these locations—Shochoh, Azekah, and Elah—in mind as you review the following astounding paragraphs published in the July 2, 2004 issue of The International Jerusalem Post:

The gentle heights of Tel Sucho in the south and Tel Azekah to the north slope down like a mother’s thighs into the Elah Valley. Filled today with blazing sunflowers, this valley is a womb. From here, the legend of David and Goliath was born. From here, the Palestinian refugees set out to the hills in the distance 56 years ago and from here a renewal of modern Israeli settlement emerged.

“We saw ourselves living on the remains of King David. We are in the direct line of David’s ancestors. My people were taken into exile by Nebuchadnezzar and only now have returned,” says Assael Lavi, who was born in Zakariyya to Kurdish immigrants.

“We returned to the land and to our ancestral home. I don’t have to apologize for the fact that others stole my land for over 2,000 years,” says Lavi, who grew up in a house Palestinians built using Byzantine-era stones.

“The Palestinians call this area Makbarat Jalut, Goliath’s grave,” says Lavi, surveying his field of wheat. “Well I found it. Goliath’s grave. It’s right over there.”

Lavi points to a patch of stunted wheat, where an altar made of a circle of stones lies partially hidden.

Yes to giants! Yes to David and Goliath! God’s Word as found in His Holy Bible is true. Trust Him. [End of quotes]

Approximately 3,000 years ago, a young lad named David slew a nearly 10-foot-tall giant named Goliath.  As you should expect, the skeptics totally discredit this scriptural account.  Now a pottery discovery in Gath, the home town of the Bible’s Goliath, has raised some eyebrows.  The following paragraph is from Biblical Archaeology Review of March/April 2006:

Two names scratched onto a small sherd of pottery are all that appear in the oldest Philistine inscription ever found.  Though the names are Philistine—the one on the right may be the equivalent of Goliath—the letters themselves are Semitic, thus demonstrating that the Philistines (a sea-faring people from the Aegean) absorbed aspects of Semitic culture once they settled on the coast of modern Israel.  [End of quotes]

In a September 2016 news release published by CBN News, you’ll find the following:

Archaeologists believe they have found the ancient city where David battled Goliath. 

They found the 3,000-year-old city in Israel’s Elah Valley between the Biblical cities of Sokho and Azekah, on the border between Philistia and Judah, according to Jewish News Service. 

The site, referenced in I Samuel 17:1-2, is known by its modern name, Khirbet Qeiyafa. 

It has undergone seven years of excavations, and now the public can study what archaeologists unearthed in a new Bible Lands Museum exhibition, “In the Valley of David and Goliath.”  It opened in Jerusalem earlier this month. 

Around 28 charred olive pits discovered during excavations underwent carbon-14 dating.  That information showed the city existed in the time of Saul and David, from the end of the 11^th century BC to the early 10^th century. 

Professor Yosef Garfinkel, the Yigal Yadin chair of archaeology at the Institute of Archaeology at Hebrew University of Jerusalem, led the excavations, along with Sa’ar Ganor from the Israel Antiquities Authority and professor Michal Hazel of Southern Adventist University of Tennessee. 

Archaeologists discovered at the site the city’s two gates—a western one, which faced Philistia, and a southern one, which faced Judah. 

The gates prompted excavators to connect the site with the Biblical city of Sha’arayim, which is Hebrew for “two gates.”  The story of David and Goliath mentions that city in I Samuel 17:52, which reads, “…and the wounded of the Philistines fell along the road to Shaaraim, even as far as Gath and Ekron.”  The city is also referenced in Joshua 15:36 and I Chronicles 4:31. 

Archaeologists also found evidence of Jewish activity at the site, which included thousands of sheep, goat, cow, and fish bones, and the absence of non-kosher pig bones, according to Bible Lands curator Yehuda Kaplan. 

In addition, excavators discovered casemate walls that reflect the urban planning implemented only by people who lived in Judah and Transjordan.  [End of quote]

All of Satan’s champions felled by one smooth stone.  Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life.  He is the Solid Rock. 

GOD SAID, Genesis 6:1-4:

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

GOD SAID, Deuteronomy 3:13:

And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.

GOD SAID, Numbers 13:33:

And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

GOD SAID, I Samuel 17: 4-10, 20-24, 44-51:

4 And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

5 And he had an helmet of brass upon his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail; and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of brass.

6 And he had greaves of brass upon his legs, and a target of brass between his shoulders.

7 And the staff of his spear was like a weaver''s beam; and his spear''s head weighed six hundred shekels of iron: and one bearing a shield went before him.

8 And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me.

9 If he be able to fight with me, and to kill me, then will we be your servants: but if I prevail against him, and kill him, then shall ye be our servants, and serve us.

10 And the Philistine said, I defy the armies of Israel this day; give me a man, that we may fight together.

20 And David rose up early in the morning, and left the sheep with a keeper, and took, and went, as Jesse had commanded him; and he came to the trench, as the host was going forth to the fight, and shouted for the battle.

21 For Israel and the Philistines had put the battle in array, army against army.

22 And David left his carriage in the hand of the keeper of the carriage, and ran into the army, and came and saluted his brethren.

23 And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them.

24 And all the men of Israel, when they saw the man, fled from him, and were sore afraid.

44 And the Philistine said to David, Come to me, and I will give thy flesh unto the fowls of the air, and to the beasts of the field.

45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the LORD of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.

46 This day will the LORD deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.

47 And all this assembly shall know that the LORD saveth not with sword and spear: for the battle is the Lord''s, and he will give you into our hands.

48 And it came to pass, when the Philistine arose, and came and drew nigh to meet David, that David hasted, and ran toward the army to meet the Philistine.

49 And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth.

50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.

51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled.

MAN SAID: Giants?! Just another Biblical fairytale!

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References:

Authorized King James Version

“Has the Battleground of David and Goliath Finally Been Unearthed,” CBN.com, September 2016

GodSaidManSaid, “And There We Saw Giants, The Sons of Anak”

GodSaidManSaid, “Archaeology Keeps on Saying Yes” 

GodSaidManSaid, “Goliath”

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