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I have personally had the marvelous privilege to be a Sola Scriptura (Scriptures alone) student of the Holy Bible for nearly 50 years. During these years, I have been blessed to attend and participate in nearly 20,000 formal Bible-based services and over 20,000 hours of Holy Ghost instruction. I have participated in numerous doctrinal and academic debates as well as 800-plus GodSaidManSaid subjects defending and certifying the supernatural inerrancy of the majority-text Authorized King James Version of the Bible. I have heard and considered the rancorous challenge of the atheists and evolutionists. I have heard the soft-spoken rhetoric of Satan’s purported “Biblical scholars” subtly undermining the absolutes of God’s Word. I, like all, have endured the relentless onslaught of carnal gradualism. Through it all, I have learned to trust in the marvelous accuracy of God’s Holy Book—the very foundation of life, even eternal life and purpose. By the grace of God, I, as well as countless others before me, have discovered the glorious accuracy of Psalm 19:7-11:
7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
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GOD SAID, Genesis 5:5:
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
GOD SAID, Job 40:15-19:
15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
GOD SAID, Job 41: 1, 14-21, 25-31, 33:
1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
GOD SAID, Isaiah 14:29:
Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent''s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
GOD SAID, Jeremiah 51:34:
Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
MAN SAID: The Bible is a book of incredible fairy tales and only the simple embrace it.
Now THE RECORD: Welcome to GodSaidManSaid feature 809 that will once again certify the pure inerrancy of God’s Holy Word. Every one of these powerful features is archived here in text and streaming audio for the defense of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and as bait for the fishers of men. Every Thursday eve, God willing, they grow by one. Thank you for visiting. May God’s face shine upon you with every good and perfect gift.
Dinosaurs, those terrible lizards, lived contemporaneously with man and exist in the annals of history. The earth and its universe are just over 6,000 years of age; academia’s insistence that the fossils of dinosaurs, various sea monsters, and others, are millions—even hundreds of millions—of years old is a clear demonstration of what grows up when unbelief is planted. II Thessalonians Chapter Two calls it “the deceivableness of unrighteousness.”
In the following pages, you will find foundational excerpts from various GodSaidManSaid features, and then new information to consider.
▶ GodSaidManSaid, “Historians and 911 Years:”
This feature deals with the historians’ record concerning the phenomenal life span of ancient man. It also demonstrates the catastrophic results when TRUTH is rejected for hypothesis. The following paragraph is found in the writings of Josephus:
Now when Noah had lived three hundred and fifty years after the Flood, and that all that time happily, he died, having the number of nine hundred and fifty years: but let no one, upon comparing the lives of the ancients with our lives, and with the few years which we now live, think that what we have said of them is false; or make the shortness of our lives at present an argument that neither did they attain to so long a duration of life; for those ancients were beloved of God, and [lately] made by God himself; and because their food was then fitter for the prolongation of life, might well live so great a number of years; and besides, God afforded them a longer time of life on account of their virtue, and the good use they made of it in astronomical and geometrical discoveries, which would not have afforded the time of foretelling [the periods of the stars] unless they had lived six hundred years; for the Great Year is completed in that interval. Now I have for witnesses to what I have said all those that have written Antiquities, both among the Greeks and barbarians; for even Manetho, who wrote the Egyptian History, and Berosus, who collected the Chaldean Monuments, and Mochus, and Hestiaeus, and besides these, Hieronymus the Egyptian, and those who composed the Phoenician History, agree to what I here say: Hesiod also, and Hecataeus, Hellanicus, and Acusilaus; and besides, Ephorus and Nicolaus relate that the ancients lived a thousand years: but as to these matters, let every one look upon them as he thinks fit. [End of quote]
Watch the deceivableness of unrighteousness at work and how childlike faith defeats it.
If men lived an average pre-flood life of 911 years, or basically 13 times longer than we do today (and they certainly did), then much of the world’s knowledge that rejects this Biblical record would have a very distorted view of reality (and it certainly does). Just two points will be briefly discussed to illustrate:
1. Neanderthal Man: The Neaderthal is showcased by Darwinian scientists as an evolutionary progression to today’s modern man. The following excerpt is from the GodSaidManSaid feature “Adam Was To Live Forever:”
...tremendously long pre-flood life spans answer many questions. Consider Neanderthal man, one of the evolutionists’ supposed links between ape and man. Because pseudo-science has rejected the Bible and the creation model, the following truth has escaped the followers of pseudo-science. A.L. Gillen writes in his book, Body By Design, the following:
Dr. Jack Cuozzo, a research orthodontist for over 30 years, in his book Buried Alive, explains Neanderthal man's skeletons. His studies show that the human head does not stop growing as we age. Contrasting the measurements of people’s heads when they were 19, in their late forties, and some at age 80, he discovered that the head changed in the following manner: 1) the brow ridge came forward; 2) the jaw came forward; 3) the nose got bigger; 4) the chin came forward; 5) the cheeks came forward and flattened out; 6) the teeth came forward; 7) the back of the head started to point out.
Think of a baby’s soft head. It is fashioned with cartilage as well as bone. Our skull gradually changes over time from fetus to infant to adolescent to adult. This has been known for some time. But more recently Dr. Jack Cuozzo has found that our skull continues to change in our old age, and assuming man could live to 150, 200, 300, or even 500 years of age, this pattern of change would produce an individual that looked remarkably like Neanderthal man. [End of quote]
2. Dinosaurs: Man living 13 times longer before the flood of Noah suggests that all of God’s creatures would have enjoyed a similar benefit. Consider reptiles, which of course include lizards, that never stop growing. An old snake is a big snake. Reptiles never stop growing. Take into consideration that, prior to the flood, under God’s perfect water canopy, which blocked out ultraviolet killer rays from the sun, there was an abundance of perfect air, water and food. Now consider the Chinese iguana that can reach a length of 12 feet. If that terrible lizard would live 13 times longer, and if it grew in equal proportion, it would be 156 feet long and potentially several stories tall. The word dinosaur, which was coined in the 1800s, simply means “terrible lizard.” Evolution’s poster child—the dinosaur—is just a giant reptile.
When God’s Word is rejected, foolishness is the result. Yes, man lived to nearly 1,000 years of age in the days of old, hence Neanderthals, dinosaurs, and the like. The Bible declares it so, and the record says yes. The Bible is the solid truth. Stand on it. [End of quotes]
▶ GodSaidManSaid, “Fire-Breathing Dragons and Fiery Flying Serpents:”
In a research book titled After The Flood, author William Cooper cites some very interesting information. This first excerpt deals with flying reptiles, which science claims were not contemporary to man. It reads:
The last monster to be destroyed by Beowulf (and from which encounter Beowulf also died in the year AD 583) was a flying reptile which lived on a promontory overlooking the sea at Hronesness on the southern coast of Sweden. Now, the Saxons (and presumably the Danes) knew flying reptiles in general as lyftfloga (air-fliers), but this particular species of flying reptile, the specimen from Hronesness, was known to them as widfloga, literally a wide (or far-ranging) flyer, and the description that they have left us fits that of a giant Pteranodon. Interestingly, the Saxons also described this creature as ligdraca, or fire-dragon, and he is described as fifty feet in length (or perhaps wingspan?) and about 300 years of age. Moreover, and of particular interest to us, the name widfloga would have distinguished this particular species of flying reptile from another similar species which was capable of making only short flights. Such a creature is portrayed in a shield-boss from the Sutton Hoo burial which shows a flying dragon with its wings folded along its sides. Its long tooth-filled jaws are readily seen, and the shield-boss can be seen to this day in its showcase at the British Museum. Modern paleontologists, working from fossilized remains, have named such a creature Pterodactyl.
In a 1793 statistical account of Scotland, a sober government report read:
In the end of November and beginning of December last, many of the country people observed...dragons...appearing in the north and flying rapidly towards the east; from which they concluded, and their conjectures were right, that...boisterous weather would follow.
Flying reptiles have been reported as recently as the early 1900s. [End of quote]
Again from William Cooper''s book:
Likewise, the Voluspa tells us of a certain monster which the early Vikings called a Nithhoggr, its name (''corpse-tearer'') revealing the fact that it lived off carrion. Saxo Grammaticus, in his Gesta Danorum, tells us of the Danish king Frotho's fight with a giant reptile, and it is in the advice given by a local to the king, and recorded by Saxo, that the monster is described in great detail. It was, he says, a serpent:
...wreathed in coils, doubled in many a fold, and with a tail drawn out in winding whorls, shaking his manifold spirals and shedding venom...his slaver [saliva] burns up what it bespatters...yet [he tells the king in words that were doubtless meant to encourage rather than dismay]...remember to keep the dauntless temper of thy mind; nor let the point of the jagged tooth trouble thee, nor the starkness of the beast, nor the venom...there is a place under his lowest belly whither thou mayst plunge the blade... [End of quote]
Note that this giant reptile spits saliva that burns up what it hits.
Author John Whitcomb in his book, The World That Perished, states:Evolutionary scientists believe that dinosaurs became extinct many millions of years before men appeared on the earth. But the Bible indicates that men and dinosaurs have lived contemporaneously.
And then again, Whitcomb, referring to articles in National Geographic writes:
Scientific discovery confirms biblical revelation at this point. If we understand "dinosaur" in its original meaning of "terrifying lizard" then dinosaurs are not yet extinct. About 1,000 huge "dragon lizards" still survive on the small Indonesian island of Komodo.
Only about 500 years ago, the aepyornis, a dinosaur bird nearly ten feet tall and weighing half a ton, still lived on the island of Madagascar. The time has come for a totally new perspective on dinosaurs in relation to Earth history and mankind.
Dr. Henry Morris, founder of the world renowned Institute For Creation Research weighs in with this statement from his book The Remarkable Record of Job:
Dragons of various kinds were capable of breathing out fire—at least according to traditions from all parts of the world. Certain insects can, in effect, give out light or fire (e.g., the bombardier beetle and the firefly), as can various luminescent fish. Perhaps more to the point, dinosaur fossils have been excavated that show a strange protuberance, with internal cavity, on top of the head. It is conceivable that this could have served as a sort of mixing chamber for combustible gases that would ignite when exhaled into the outside oxygen.
In any case, it seems unlikely that the ubiquitous tales of fire-breathing dragons in ancient times, coming as they do from all parts of the world, could have come into existence without a strong factual basis. Furthermore, the Bible often mentions dragons just as it mentions unicorns; always in such a way as to show that the writers believed they were real animals. [End of quotes]
▶ GodSaidManSaid, “Dragons, Dinosaurs, and the Devil:”
We found the following paragraph in Darek Isaacs’ book Dragons or Dinosaurs? The statement was made by Samuel Hubbard, honorary curator of archaeology of the Oakland Museum. He and C.W. Gilmore, the curator of paleontology at the United States National Museum, and others were on an expedition to the Havasupai Canyon to study pictographs, petroglyphs, and artifacts left behind by ancient American Indians. Hubbard said the following:
The fact that some prehistoric man made a pictograph of a dinosaur on the walls of this canyon upsets completely all of our theories regarding the antiquity of man. Facts are stubborn and immutable things. If theories do not square with the facts then the theories must change, the facts remain. [End of quote]
Isaacs reports records of ancient historians. Several excerpts follow:
Josephus by no means stands alone as a respected historian recording stories of flying reptiles—more specifically those called dragons. In fact, other historians gave even more detail. A Roman historian named Pliny the Elder wrote an encyclopedic work titled Natural History, which was relied upon for scientific matters up to the Middle Ages. In it, he spoke freely of dragons:
It is India that produces the largest (elephant) as well as the dragon, who is perpetually at war with the elephant, and is itself of so enormous a size as to envelope the elephants with its folds, and encircle them in its coils. The contest is equally fatal to both...
The finale of the fight is visually dramatic—the struggle leaves both combatants dead. Pliny left his readers with a definitive, logical ending to an encounter between two powerful creatures. But this is not an anomaly for Pliny; multiple times he spoke freely of the dragon. Here is another of his extraordinary accounts.
It lies, therefore, coiled up and concealed in the rivers, in wait for the elephants, when they come to drink; upon which it darts out, fastens itself around the trunk, and then fixes its teeth behind the ear, that being the only place which the elephant cannot protect with the trunk. [End of quotes]
▶ GodSaidManSaid, “Dragons Swallow Up Evolution:”
The word dinosaur was first coined by Sir Richard Owen in 1841; the word means “terrible lizard”. Prior to that, these creatures were known in the scriptures and in the general public by names like dragon, leviathan, behemoth, fiery flying serpents, cockatrice, and more.
The evolutionists must stand and challenge the Biblical idea that man and dinosaur lived contemporaneously because if they did, their theory crumbles. The Darwinists have lifted their icon, the dinosaur, up so high that if it is discredited, no manner of tall grass can cover their nakedness. When evolutionist Albert Ingalls was confronted with this concept, he made the following statement in Scientific American:
If man, or even his ape ancestor, or even that ape ancestor’s early mammalian ancestor, existed as far back as in the Carboniferous Period in any shape, then the whole science of geology is so completely wrong that all the geologists will resign their jobs and take up truck driving.
In defense of the honorable and necessary trade of transportation by truck drivers, we think Ingalls and his ilk who do not know where they came from, why they are here, and where they are going, are not quite up to the task.
On this website, we have referred to the research of Darek Isaacs, published in his book Dragons or Dinosaurs? Additional excerpts from Isaac's work follow:
The 1973 World Book Encyclopedia printed this:
The dragons of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs], which inhabited the Earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on Earth.
Notable knowledge reservoirs were catching the amazing phenomenon—dragon legends are everywhere, and they mimic dinosaurs.
Why is it that such a candid conclusion, that dragons are strikingly similar to dinosaurs, was seemingly edited out of subsequent editions of the World Book Encyclopedia? Is it because dragon legends stopped sounding like dinosaurs? No.
Louis Jacobs, author and former president of the Society of Vertebrate Paleontology, stated the implications of this powerful question of man and dinosaur coexistence: “Such an association would dispel an Earth with vast antiquity. The entire history of creation, including the day of rest, could be accommodated in the seven Biblical days of the Genesis myth. Evolution would be vanquished.”
This threat to evolution, identified by World Book, did not fall idly by without an attempt to rectify this thorn in the side. This kind of irritant, even amongst secular sources, required a retort; it demanded a response. To answer that call, none other than Carl Sagan, one of the most renowned and famous atheistic/evolutionary thinkers, answered the call to arms with his book The Dragons of Eden.
Sagan knew that this dragon phenomenon, if it was left unaddressed, would spell disaster for the worldview built on Darwin’s theory of origins.
In a nutshell, Sagan argued that the worldwide phenomenon of dragon accounts could be explained by humanity having reincarnated memories that were passed down from our pre-human ancestors who actually lived at the same time as dinosaurs. He tried to make the case that in our dreams, we view past-life experiences of our pre-human ancestors. These memories are supposedly inherited from our pre-human ancestors, before they mutated into humans. Let’s walk through his idea in his own words, starting with his simple admission to the obvious: The pervasiveness of dragon myths in the folk legends of many cultures is probably no accident. He then acknowledged a couple of sentences later that “it is a worldwide phenomenon.”
To answer this in an evolutionary way, Sagan had to offer an explanation as to why ancient people had vivid imagery of what dinosaurs looked like, acted like, ate, and even how many of them reproduced without anyone ever seeing the creatures with their own, actual eyes. This is because, according to evolutionary theory, man should never have seen a real, living dinosaur. We are supposed to be separated by 65 million years of time and space. [End of quote]
Isaacs continues:
A series of twelve animal names are used to denote a sequence in the Chinese calendar. In order, these names are rat, ox, tiger, hare, dragon, snake, horse, sheep, monkey, fowl, dog, and pig.
Notice that amongst animals that are familiar to people around the world lies the dragon—a creature that has been thought to be only a myth. Yet, one of the oldest societies in the world has used the dragon as a cultural icon, and for centuries, the Chinese have included the dragon in a list of common animals like the sheep, rabbit, and dog. [End of quotes]
The following powerful excerpts have been lifted from Carl Wieland’s book, Dragons of the Deep:
It is true that so far no one has found a fossil of a person together with the fossil of a mosasaur. Does that mean that mosasaurs lived millions of years ago before there were people? Hardly; the fish called coelacanths are known for their fossils, which are found in the same layers as dinosaurs, mosasaurs, and other reptiles. No human (or whale) fossils have been found in the same rocks together with coelacanths. Yet coelacanths definitely lived with humans and whales. How do we know? Because several populations of coelacanths have been found to be living today, on the same earth as people, whales, and many other creatures that we never find with them in the fossil record. [End of quote]
Mr. Wieland displays on the pages of his book, the 50-foot-long, 40-ton sea monster Shonisaurus. The name means Shoshone Mountain Reptile. Wieland continues:
Shonisaurus was adopted as the state fossil of Nevada, the state in which the fossils from which it was first described were found.
The location in which Shonisaurus fossils came to light is interesting, too. The Shoshone Mountains of Nevada are in the middle of a desert. Yet 36 Shonisaurus fossils were found together there, at an altitude of over 7,000 feet (2,134 m). Some have suggested that this unusual grouping could have been from a whole school of these massive reptiles beaching themselves, like some whales have been known to do. The problem with this explanation is that we know that such beached whales do not go on to form preserved fossil skeletons. Exposed on a beach, even their skeletons would just fall apart—unless they were catastrophically buried. Imagine what sort of catastrophe it would take to suddenly bury and cover 36 schoolbus-size creatures!
Another evidence of rapid burial and massive watery action is the fact that the 36 shonisaurs were not found in haphazard directions, but all seemed to be more or less lined up in a north-south direction. This suggests that powerful water currents lined them up when they were washed into place by the catastrophe that preserved them. Since the Genesis flood covered the whole globe, it’s no surprise that we find sea creatures in inland regions, too—including the tops of high mountains. [End of quote]
On page 44 in the book Dragons of the Deep, you’ll find Sarcosuchus that grew up to 40 feet in length, weighing in at eight tons. A fossilized Sarcosuchus was found in 1964 in the Sahara Desert.
The more fossils—the vast, vast majority of them buried by water action—testify of Noah’s flood. Remember that, prior to the flood, men—and, by extension, everything else—lived 13 times longer. In 1843, the fossil of Cretoxyrhina was discovered in the U.S. This creature grew to lengths of up to 25 feet and weighed as much as three tons. Wieland writes:
Like all extinct sharks, with their skeletons of cartilage instead of bone, this brute did not leave many fossils behind other than its teeth. In the late 1800s, however, some remarkably complete specimens were found, suggesting that they had been rapidly buried.
One rare, complete specimen containing 150 teeth was clearly flattened by the weight of the sediment that buried it. [End of quote]
Have you ever walked in the woods and wondered: Where are all the dead carcasses of deer, bear, squirrels, or birds? God’s janitorial staff makes short order of them. Other creatures quickly come and dine, and the earth itself swallows them up. Carl Wieland writes:
The evidence of these violent attacks, and particularly the scavenging afterward, reminds us that dead creatures don’t lie on the seafloor quietly waiting to be buried by slow, gentle accumulation of sediments over “millions of years.” They would be slicked, diced, and “ripped apart” long before then!
Also, there are many types of small organisms that start to decompose any bone that lies on the ocean floor. This is the reason why documentaries of the bottom of the ocean don’t show hundreds of partially buried skeletons in the process of getting more fully buried over further eons of time. It simply doesn’t happen that way. Dead things on the bottom of the sea just don’t stay intact and last for long. Even for skeletons to be preserved at all, they must be buried fairly soon, not hang around for “millions of years.”
The specimen discussed above suggests that it was attacked, then scavenged, then at some point soon after this (days or weeks later—certainly not thousands of years, let alone millions) the scavenging process was interrupted because it was rapidly buried under sediment. [End of quotes]
The more you look, the more you find. Dinosaurs, those terrible lizards, lived to very old years prior to the global flood—testimonials remain after the flood—and they are the dragons, the fiery flying serpents, the behemoths, the leviathans, and the cockatrices of the Bible. God’s Words concerning this 6,000-year-old earth and its universe are true and righteous altogether—a place to build a life that will last forever.
GOD SAID, Genesis 5:5:
And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
GOD SAID, Job 40:15-19:
15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
GOD SAID, Job 41: 1, 14-15, 18-21, 33:
1 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
GOD SAID, Isaiah 14:29:
Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
GOD SAID, Jeremiah 51:34:
Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.
MAN SAID: The Bible is a book of incredible fairy tales and only the simple embrace it.
Now you have THE RECORD.
References:
Authorized King James Version
GodSaidManSaid, “Dragons Swallow Up Evolution”
GodSaidManSaid, “Dragons, Dinosaurs, and the Devil”
GodSaidManSaid, “Fire-Breathing Dragons and Fiery Flying Serpents”
GodSaidManSaid, “Historians and 911 Years”
Wieland, C., Dragons of the Deep, Master Books, 2005
